{"id":205789,"date":"2024-08-15T11:56:38","date_gmt":"2024-08-15T10:56:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/?p=205789"},"modified":"2024-08-15T17:48:20","modified_gmt":"2024-08-15T16:48:20","slug":"louis-bloom-on-island-records-his-mentors-his-values-and-his-ambitions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/louis-bloom-on-island-records-his-mentors-his-values-and-his-ambitions\/","title":{"rendered":"Louis Bloom on Island Records, his mentors, his values, and his ambitions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #FF7D00;\"><em>The following interview with Louis Bloom took place shortly before Universal Music Group announced that he was being elevated to run the newly merged London-based mega-label, the Island EMI Label Group. That move will take place on October 1. Right now, Bloom continues to run Island Records UK \u2013 as you&#8217;ll read, with some distinction&#8230;<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Before getting into the weeds, Island Records UK President Louis Bloom is understandably keen to take a more elevated view of the label&#8217;s current status. There&#8217;s certainly a fair amount of blue sky up there.<\/p>\n<p>Its recent (and extended) run of success has been built on hits by artists such as Hozier (who Bloom personally signed back in 2012), Noah Kahan, The Last Dinner Party and others. And on a team\/culture assembled and defined by what Island founder Chris Blackwell described to Bloom as a unique \u201ctaste and tone\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">      <div class=\"mb-advert__incontent\">      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__tweeny hidden-xs hidden-ms hidden-sm\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-sizes=\"992 1200 1440\" data-name=\"628x90 Sponsor banner #5 (992+1200+1440)\" data-params=\"dfp_sponsor5_628\" id=\"dfp_sponsor5_628\"><\/div>      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__banner mb-advert__banner--inline hidden-xs hidden-sm hidden-md hidden-lg\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-sizes=\"480\" data-name=\"468x60 Sponsor banner #5 (480)\" data-params=\"dfp_sponsor5_468\" id=\"dfp_sponsor5_468\"><\/div>      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__mobile mb-advert__mobile--inline hidden-ms hidden-md hidden-lg\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-sizes=\"320 768\" data-name=\"300x50 Sponsor banner #5 (320+768)\" data-params=\"dfp_sponsor5_300\" id=\"dfp_sponsor5_300\"><\/div>      <\/div>      <\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">He says: \u201cThis is a label with a distinct DNA \u2013 something that was laid down by Chris. It\u2019s about artist development, it\u2019s about signing exceptional\u00a0talent that perhaps isn\u2019t especially obvious, in a commercial sense, at the time. It\u2019s about taking\u00a0creative\u00a0risks, it\u2019s about building fanbases that have a direct relationship with artists they feel a genuine connection\u00a0to.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">\u201cMore than anything else it\u2019s about great artists regardless of genre. Historically, Chris covered everything, from folk to reggae and prog rock to pop and, similarly, we want to be leaders in all fields.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">      <div class=\"mb-advert__incontent\">      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__spu\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-name=\"300x250 Sponsor MPU #1\" data-params=\"dfp_spu1\" id=\"dfp_spu1\"><\/div>      <\/div>      <\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">Having spent over 20 years at Island, Bloom has not just witnessed, but helped drive golden periods before \u2013 most notably the run under the joint-leadership of Darcus Beese and Ted Cockle in the 2000s\/2010s which included breakthrough global success for artists such as Amy Winehouse, Florence and the Machine, Hozier, Mumford &amp; Sons and more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">He feels something similar is happening, or at least brewing, at the moment. \u201cRight now,\u201d he says, \u201cI do feel like we\u2019re working with the very best team and artists whose cultural impact will stand the test of time.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">In Island\u2019s St Pancras office, he talks in depth about that team, those artists, the label\u2019s culture, his mentors, his values and his ambitions\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">      <div class=\"mb-advert__incontent\">      <div class=\"mb-advert mb-advert__spu\" data-loaded=\"no\" data-name=\"300x250 Sponsor MPU #2\" data-params=\"dfp_spu2\" id=\"dfp_spu2\"><\/div>      <\/div>      <\/p>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>The last time we spoke to you, in 2018, you had only been running Island in the UK for a few months. How has the company changed, and how have you changed the company, since then?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\">It was always A&amp;R-led and creative-led, with no distractions, no side-hustles.\u00a0It\u2019s all about signing the right artists and building an amazing offering from an amazing team. That obviously takes time, but now we\u2019ve done that and it\u2019s playing out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">The acts that we signed back then were new, the majority hadn\u2019t put\u00a0any\u00a0music out yet. In the case of FLO, we brought them together. Those artists had to go on their own journeys, supported by us, and then it also takes a while for culture to align with them. Now we\u2019re starting to see the best versions of all of them.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Widening the lens slightly, how has Universal\u2019s company culture changed during your time here, especially perhaps under the leadership of David Joseph?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\">David\u2019s a very\u00a0nurturing\u00a0person and for me personally he\u2019s been\u00a0the biggest champion I\u2019ve had across my career;\u00a0he\u2019s been a huge influence. Ultimately, he\u2019s about greatness, he really is. He\u2019s about signing the very best. We have a vision here for Island that takes time and requires patience. But I can only go after that vision if my boss loves and understands what Island is about and believes we\u2019re fulfilling the destiny of what Island should be.\u00a0David\u00a0100% backs that\u00a0and\u00a0we\u2019re very grateful<br \/>\nfor that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">More generally, he\u2019s a person with a great aesthetic sensibility. He\u2019s someone who is always encouraging, he\u2019s someone who likes the debate and who values honesty. And he\u2019s someone you can have very real conversations with, no bullshit.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>What are the most important lessons you\u2019ve learned during your time and who have you learned them from?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\">David, of course, who\u00a0I\u2019ve talked about. Lucian, as well, is someone who, whenever I see him, we listen to music and I find his insights invaluable. I mean, he\u2019s one of the titans of the entertainment industry and I\u00a0realise that I\u2019m fortunate to be in his orbit and to be able to learn from him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">Monte Lipman\u00a0is a very important partner, someone who is fiercely loyal to\u00a0his artists and has taught me that, when you have a real belief, then you never give up. Avery Lipman has been a very wise counsel to me. He\u2019s calm, measured and very insightful. These are people who I really look up to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">And then, of course, there\u2019s Chris Blackwell, the man who started it all and without whom, none of us would be here. What I\u2019ve learned from Chris, above all else, is that what you do here is all about taste and tone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">He\u2019s got impeccable taste, and he\u2019s always curious. We had lunch together recently, and\u00a0at one point, as he was talking, he suddenly stopped, called the waiter over and asked, \u2018What\u2019s that music you\u2019re\u00a0playing?\u2019. The waiter went and found out and Chris made a note of it. He\u2019s just aware of everything around him, he\u2019s got\u00a0a\u00a0tremendous cultural\u00a0radar. And his attention to detail is immaculate \u2013\u00a0that\u2019s certainly something I uphold.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">The result is a really united company, because everyone is aware of every\u00a0nuance,\u00a0and everyone knows that every piece has to be perfect.\u00a0It all has to be true not only to the Island ethos, but to the story, vision and ambition\u00a0of the artist, so that everything is done\u00a0in an authentic way that makes that artist\u2019s fanbase feel part of something special and something coherent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">To do that,\u00a0we all have to know every detail of that story. So, that the email you send to the\u00a0database\u00a0is, to some extent, the same and almost as important\u00a0as the artwork for the album or a merch drop \u2013 the same in so much as there\u2019s a through line in terms of what I was talking about: taste and tone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">We\u2019re a tight ship here with high standards.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Let\u2019s talk about Island\u2019s current run of success and perhaps the metrics you find most useful to measure such things\u2026<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\">Yeah, it\u2019s across the board; it\u2019s not one artist and it\u2019s not one genre \u2013 that was always our intention. With\u00a0The Last Dinner Party we\u2019ve got the biggest selling debut album of the year and in Noah Kahan we\u2019ve currently got the biggest selling single of the year. And with Hozier, he\u2019s had the No.1 single here in the UK and a No.1 in America.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">And then you have artists like Nia Archives,\u00a0English Teacher and Yard Act, recently releasing albums within different sectors of culture and each with their own ecosystems. We\u2019ve got new music coming from the likes of Mumford &amp; Sons, Dermot Kennedy, Sam Tompkins, Catfish And The Bottlemen and Dylan. And then you never know what to expect from U2.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\">\u201cVirality comes and goes, but quality endures.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\">We\u2019ve also got\u00a0ArrDee\u00a0in the UK rap space, Meduza and James Hype in dance, we\u2019ve got FLO in R&amp;B,\u00a0(all coming with new music soon). We\u2019re also particularly excited about Chappell Roan, who has come to us via our Island US partners. She\u2019s just had her first Top 20 single in the UK and is about to conquer the world. And, of course, we\u2019ve got Lola Young. Like I say,\u00a0it\u2019s really across the board.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">I remember hearing Muff\u00a0Winwood\u00a0speaking at the <i>MBW<\/i> A&amp;R Awards and he said, \u2018Don\u2019t try and sign what\u2019s happening now, because you\u2019ll get it wrong \u2013 plus, it\u2019s already happened! Try and sign what hasn\u2019t happened yet and help make it happen. Go against the grain\u2019. I was in that mindset already, always, but I thought that was such a great way of putting it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">We\u2019re not opportunists. That\u2019s not to say we don\u2019t spot opportunities, it just means we don\u2019t make opportunistic signings. Virality comes and goes, but quality endures. We\u00a0aim to\u00a0sign artists who would make an impact at any time in any decade.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--center\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-80x75.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-80x75.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-160x150.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-320x300.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-418x391.jpg 418w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-648x607.jpg 648w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.09-836x783.jpg 836w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><figcaption class=\"caption wp-caption-text\">The Last Dinner Party<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>How did The Last Dinner Party come into your orbit?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">I remember James Talbut\u00a0and Sam Flynn\u00a0phoned me up and said there was this band and I was going to fucking love them. I went to a gig at XOYO and it was one of those moments where I knew instantly and totally that I wanted to sign them. That\u2019s quite a rare thing, for there to be no questions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">Not only that, but I immediately knew how we were going to launch them, I could see me and the team working with them, I could see the whole journey mapped out, just from seeing them live once \u2013 because they were just so fabulous\u00a0and unique.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">As a band, they came with all the answers, they were beyond clear about who they were and who their audience was. It was small, but it was there, because they\u2019d been gigging for around two years, but outside the industry bubble \u2013 and that has done them the world<br \/>\nof good.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Was it a competitive environment when it came to signing them?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s2\">Not at all, not remotely. Probably because it was so different to anything else.\u00a0As far as I\u2019m aware I actually don\u2019t think there was another firm offer on the table. Again though, I don\u2019t care. It doesn\u2019t make a difference to us and if we ever had that mindset I\u2019d really have to check myself. It\u2019s never about signing an artist to win some sort of competition. The question is, is the artist reflective of what Island is about and can we help them?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Are you heartily tired of some of the internal industry cynicism surrounding their rise?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s2\">Well, I like people talking about them, so that\u2019s\u00a0OK.\u00a0Also,\u00a0I think the cynicism came from a very vocal minority. And it quickly dissipated anyway, because anyone who\u2019s paying attention can see that they\u2019re in charge of everything, they\u2019re their own creation. The idea that a label would come up with this whole package is\u2026 look, they write all the songs, they created the look, the image, the story, the whole idea of The Last Dinner Party.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">We launched with a three minute video which told the story of who they are. And huge credit to Studio Island Creative Director Saorla [Houston] here, who personally directed the video, collaborating with Josh in the team who works on all the band\u2019s creative. We also made a whole album really quickly, pretty much like we used to do.\u00a0These days you\u2019re more likely to release\u00a0a track,\u00a0analyse\u00a0the data, make a tweak,\u00a0release another track\u2026But we made an album, came up with a plan and stuck to it.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"mb-embed-container\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pETz4IMmeDU?si=Nfr_KLuRVrWSE9Hj\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">We knew when the album was coming and there was a confidence about that. It didn\u2019t matter how things went during that process, there was a body of work and they were bringing it to the table, no matter what, with total belief, from them and us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">So, yeah, I don\u2019t know, if people want to be sniffy about a well-orchestrated campaign behind a world-class band, then that\u2019s on them. The bottom line is, they\u2019re unlike anything else, and I think that\u2019s reflected in the connection they\u2019re making internationally. They\u2019re selling tickets in Europe, Australia and America and they\u2019re building a fanbase who want to be part of the world they\u2019ve created \u2013 and which hopefully we\u2019ve helped build out.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>What\u2019s the next part of the plan for them?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">They\u2019re desperate to release new music. There\u2019ll be a second album next year.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--center\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-80x88.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-80x88.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-160x176.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-320x351.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-418x459.jpg 418w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-648x711.jpg 648w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.37-836x917.jpg 836w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><figcaption class=\"caption wp-caption-text\">Lola Young<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Lola Young is an interesting artist in terms of how much she\u2019s evolved. How involved has Island been in that process?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">Nick Huggett,\u00a0who was then her sole manager, invited me down to watch her at a rehearsal room one day, an open mic gig at the Hospital Club\u00a0and, again, I had that feeling of knowing immediately that we should sign her.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">They don\u2019t come along often, but the trick, if it is a trick, or the skill, if it is a skill, is to\u00a0recognise\u00a0those moments and act on those moments, and that\u2019s something I\u2019ve managed to do a few times in my career.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">In this case, it was as much about her magnetic personality as anything else at that stage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">Then started the long process of wanting and trying to sign her. During that process, Nick\u00a0Shymansky\u00a0joined the team as co-manager, but just because I had a relationship with him and Nick [Hugget], didn\u2019t mean I was going to get the deal. The<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>team and I did everything we could and I think our passion for her as an artist came across.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">Once she was on the label, everyone saw what I saw, everyone knew she was an exceptional talent. We launched, and the truth is, at 18, she wasn\u2019t quite ready. She hadn\u2019t quite found herself, her USP which was totally understandable.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s2\">It was going OK, we were pleasing the media, but we weren\u2019t really building a fanbase. There came a point where we kept doing the same thing and it wasn\u2019t connecting. So I had a conversation with Nick, Nick, Jack Greengrass, my co-A&amp;R, and Lola and said, \u2018Let\u2019s take some time out\u2019.\u00a0Because that\u2019s what it was, a time out. I assured them that we weren\u2019t going anywhere as a label and there was never a doubt about us regrouping, continuing and making this work, because there is no artist I\u2019ve worked with who\u2019s been that amazing at that age.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\">\u201cThere is no artist I\u2019ve worked with who has been that amazing at that age.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">So that\u2019s what they did, that\u2019s what Lola did, she\u00a0worked really hard and she\u00a0worked it out. She developed her own look, and found her true voice. I really believe that, as a lyricist, she\u2019s a once in a generation talent. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019d say we properly launched that\u00a0at the beginning of\u00a0last year with <i>Don\u2019t Hate Me<\/i>, which was a bit more alt, a bit more left-leaning and a bit less passive.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">What we found initially was that we were actually losing some numbers, because the people who\u2019d been on the journey initially, perhaps weren\u2019t quite sure, they\u00a0maybe\u00a0saw a different artist. But this was the real Lola Young, and\u00a0then\u00a0suddenly, of course, it\u00a0did connect, people got it, everyone was talking about her. Honestly, I think about Lola all the time and I think she\u2019s going to be a very, very important artist for the UK.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">We\u2019re now at a stage where everyone wants to work with her, the new guard and the old guard \u2013 Kendrick Lamar, Tyler The Creator and SZA are huge fans. It\u2019s a really beautiful time for her.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>I guess it shows the value of loyalty\u2026<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s2\">Yes, and I really like that word and that value, but I also have to point out, it works both ways; they were loyal to us. Five-and-a-half years ago, this was a new operation, there were lots of untested moving parts. They could have gone with other labels, because this <i>was<\/i> a competitive signing, but they chose us, and we won\u2019t forget that.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--center\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" src=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-80x72.jpg\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-80x72.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-160x145.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-320x289.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-418x378.jpg 418w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-648x586.jpg 648w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-11.59.56-836x756.jpg 836w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><figcaption class=\"caption wp-caption-text\">Bloom with Hozier in 2014<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Loyalty is also pertinent to the recent success of Hozier, who you initially signed to the label and still A&amp;R. How pleased were you when he got his first UK and US No.1 single this year?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">I\u2019m really pleased for him, of course. It has put him in the spotlight and Hozier now sits amongst the elite club of the top artists in the world. Which is where he belongs! The charts are a metric and it helps tell the story in a very concise way. But there are many metrics, and what I\u2019m most happy about is that he continues to be a brilliant artist who we have a great relationship with. If there are moments within that relationship like the one we\u2019ve just had, that\u2019s really special, but it\u2019s only one part of a much bigger picture for us.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Do you miss being on the frontline of A&amp;R?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">I still solely A&amp;R some projects and I co-A&amp;R as well, with other team members.\u00a0But I don\u2019t miss it as a sole occupation because I have a very short attention span, and I\u2019m a perfectionist and,\u00a0if I\u2019m\u00a0just drilling down into\u00a0the\u00a0very detailed specifics of a recording,\u00a0I\u2019d always end up doing 50 or 60 mixes of a single track, which is a kind of torture for everyone. So\u00a0to have some\u00a0distance between myself and the minutiae of A&amp;R is probably good for my mental health \u2013 and everyone else\u2019s! <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s2\">But, that said, I still have the same approach, I still hear, and have a view on, everything that comes into the building and gets released. I lead the A&amp;R meetings with Dan [Lloyd Jones].\u00a0Also, A&amp;R isn\u2019t just about the music, it again goes back to taste and tone running through everything, every piece of contact you have with an artist\u2019s fanbase.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">We spend hours every day applying those principles to\u00a0things like\u00a0social media posts. Because, yes, the music has to be as truly great as we can help make it,\u00a0while at the same time we need to make sure our artists are always being presented as authentically and effectively as possible\u00a0at all times.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">So, I\u2019m incredibly hands-on, whilst at the same time I hope I\u2019m empowering, because\u00a0there\u2019s such a great team here.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>How has the art of A&amp;R changed since you were in the trenches \u2013 and are they changes you\u2019d have enjoyed?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">I think there are details that have changed, but, certainly at Island, we\u2019re signing things so early that A&amp;R is about going on a journey with artists and their teams, and that is all about relationships \u2013 and about trust.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">You look at someone like Hozier and, since day one, there\u2019s been a core team, growing together, learning together, and building that trust with him and his fantastic management team. There will be moments and dips and sometimes disagreements, but if the relationship is right it will all be for the greater good.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">And the reason I am so engaged with A&amp;R, by the way, is because every A&amp;R decision affects every\u00a0person\u00a0and every creative element across the company. That\u2019s what being A&amp;R-led means. It\u2019s not like they make the record and then it gets pushed upstairs.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">It takes a lot of energy and a lot of cohesion. You have to sense-check everything every day, you have to be aware of the ebb and flow every day. You can feel what a good record company is on a day-to-day basis, you can feel that energy, it\u2019s all-encompassing. It makes it a real joy coming to work every day.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">You have to really, really believe, there can be no wavering. \u2018The results are in and they\u2019re not great\u2019\u2026\u00a0no, that\u2019s not what it\u2019s about, it\u2019s about\u00a0building\u00a0momentum, it\u2019s about\u00a0empathy and patience and loyalty. Then you\u2019re growing, then you\u2019re winning, and ultimately it\u2019s about developing artists who can headline festivals.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">That\u2019s how I look at everything: how do we get to that point? And the only way to give yourselves a chance is to have a company full of experts, being the best versions of themselves, with focus and chemistry, collaborating around a very clear artist vision.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">One thing that Lucian said to me when I took over\u00a0here\u00a0was, \u2018Look at everything through the lens of the artist\u00a0and make it happen for them\u2019. I think about that every day \u2013 because that\u2019s the job. And it means if any component isn\u2019t right,\u00a0I need to fix it, because everything has to align with the artist\u2019s vision.\u00a0No one\u00a0person and no ego\u00a0is too important to get in the way of\u00a0us collectively\u00a0fighting for the artist, that is our manifesto and our mantra, that\u2019s everything about what we\u2019re doing here. Having an overview of that is something I\u2019m obsessed with, and what makes us different.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h6 class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Overall, the roster is quite small, isn\u2019t it?<\/b><\/span><\/h6>\n<p class=\"p2\">It\u2019s the smallest it\u2019s been since I worked here. We know who we are and we know who we\u2019re not. There are artists who just aren\u2019t for us. There\u2019s no shade in that, it\u2019s not a commentary on whether they\u2019re good or bad. But we\u2019re only interested in artists who value long-term careers above everything else and management who we know we can work with to achieve that. And they\u2019ve got to be truly great. That means you\u2019re not going to have a huge roster, not if you stick to those principles.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI want people to look back at this time and think that we did the spirit of the label proud.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">It\u2019s also to do with\u00a0time and capacity and how that relates to\u00a0all the disciplines a record company has to have, because what a record company is and does has been reinvented.\u00a0There are new skill-sets, we have experts in every field and all these things have to come together at every level and there are only so many hours, so<br \/>\nmuch time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">As you mentioned,\u00a0I\u2019ve been in the role\u00a0a few\u00a0years\u00a0now, but no matter how long I do it, at a company with the history of Island, most of us are only here for a relatively short time, and I want to make a difference. I want people to look back at this time and think we did the spirit of the label proud. <\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span style=\"color: #FF7D00;\"><figure class=\"mbw-articlepic mbw-articlepic--right\"><img  class=\"lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-12.03.45-80x105.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-12.03.45-160x211.jpg 160w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-12.03.45-320x422.jpg 320w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-12.03.45-418x551.jpg 418w, https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/files\/2024\/07\/Screenshot-2024-07-09-at-12.03.45-648x854.jpg 648w\" data-sizes=\"auto\"><\/figure><a class=\"link-internal\" style=\"color: #FF7D00;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/mbw-plus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em><strong>This article originally appeared in the latest (Q2 2024) issue of MBW\u2019s premium quarterly publication, Music Business UK, which is out now.<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/mbw-plus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #FF7D00;\"><em><strong>MBUK is available as part of a MBW+ subscription \u2013 details through here.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.musicbusinessworldwide.com\/mbw-plus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #FF7D00;\"><em><strong>All physical subscribers will receive a complimentary digital edition with each issue.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Island Records is enjoying quite a moment, quite a year, quite a run. 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